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Windows Vista Beta2 Download Experience: An Update

There has been much discussion on this blog and others as to how tech enthusiasts can get their hands on the Windows Vista Beta2 release, given the traffic that the download site is experiencing.  We want to let you know that we are pumping out bits as fast as we can in order to serve you as best we can.  In fact, if we were to push out the bits any faster, there could be a considerable impact on the Internet as a whole -- which we of course want to avoid. 

So, it's not that we didn't anticipate this level of interest or demand, but that we are at the threshold of what the Internet can bear.

As a recourse, we're encouraging those of you who can wait to instead order the DVD.  In addition, ordering the DVD will also guarantee access to the RC1 (Release Candidate) upgrade, provided you activate your version of Windows Vista Beta2.

Please note that we're estimating that DVDs will take about 1-4 weeks to arrive depending where they're destined for in the world.  (Also note that Microsoft does not benefit from orders for the DVD -- we are charging only for cost of goods and shipping.)

Those of you who've already requested a PID (product ID) key and want to get the DVD can simply return to the Windows Vista Customer Preview Program site and complete the DVD ordering process there, where you will be issued a new PID key.

In the end, for some users it may come down to a question of whether their time or money is better spent; if that's the case, then some people might be better off simply ordering the DVD.


Comments

  1. Kyle Lees
    Posted on: June 10, 2006 at 3:12AM
    I was able to download and burn the 64-bit client for my 64-bit processor, but I am currently running a 32-bit Windows XP, so setup.exe is giving me a 'not a valid Win32 application' error.

    I am able to boot with the DVD, but to upgrade from XP without wiping the system, the installer needs to be run in XP.

    It is a tasty pickle, yet becoming too hard to chew.
  2. Posted on: June 10, 2006 at 9:53AM
    I didn't have a problem.  Or, more concisely, I didn't have a problem once I dumped the download manager that was being distributed with the beta.  Next time MS may want to try bit torrent.
  3. Ted
    Posted on: June 10, 2006 at 11:08AM
    Kyle, I had the same problem, but I was able to install it without losing everything from a boot.  If you have partitioning software, you can install it on a different drive and things work fine.  The only issues I'm having with it are problems with 32-bit programs.  I got a file system corruption error and ran chkdsk, and ever since it won't run 32-bit stuff saying some dll is missing.  But the nice thing is Windows Update was able to find all the drivers for my hardware.
  4. Steve
    Posted on: June 10, 2006 at 1:21PM
    Does Vista Home Basic run fast with 512Mb of Ram?

    And, what are its features (excluding the Premium ones)?

    I'd buy it just for its security features.

    Does it run fast as XP with 512Mb of Ram or it is slower anyway?

    Thank you.
  5. Bruce Boughton
    Posted on: June 10, 2006 at 3:15PM
    Well it runs fast with 2Gb of RAM on a Athlon X2 4400+!  And it's pretty.  Though WMP11 seems to have issues where it randomly stutters as if there's high CPU load.
  6. Marc-Andre Pilon
    Posted on: June 10, 2006 at 5:00PM
    i have installed vista , and am not able to sync with my pocket pc via the sync center, it does not show at all
  7. Enefiok Usoro
    Posted on: June 10, 2006 at 5:54PM
    If u really want to download vista via internet being that the explorer browser system is jammed with users. I have a way
    Download firefox cut and paste the vista down load page on the firefox browser when it pulls up click your appropraite method save to desktop and violla! you are on your way. (Downloading Using you own download manager) Mine downloaded in 1hr 20mins
  8. Enefiok Usoro
    Posted on: June 10, 2006 at 5:54PM
    If u really want to download vista via internet being that the explorer browser system is jammed with users. I have a way
    Download firefox cut and paste the vista down load page on the firefox browser when it pulls up click your appropraite method save to desktop and violla! you are on your way. (Downloading Using you own download manager) Mine downloaded in 1hr 20mins
  9. Posted on: June 10, 2006 at 6:19PM
    I think you just got lucky and got a good download. I don't think using Firefox had anything to do with it ;-)
  10. Posted on: June 10, 2006 at 6:48PM
    Flip 3D disabled in Beta version?

    I tried Win Key + Tab, Win Key + Space.. doesn't seems to be working.
  11. Posted on: June 10, 2006 at 6:54PM
    Works for me just fine. I think you need to have 3+ windows open at the same time. Also note it only works if you have Windows Aero working.
  12. Enefiok Usoro
    Posted on: June 10, 2006 at 7:07PM
    Does anyone know how to syncronize outlook and other none music or video files eg mobile applications to a WM5 device using vista. I take it active sync is not currently compatable with wista
  13. Posted on: June 10, 2006 at 7:19PM
    ActiveSync is not compatible with Vista Beta 2 currently and they plan to integrate some of the ActiveSync into Windows Mobile Sync Center in Vista. I've yet to discover a way to sync my Windows Mobile 5 phone with Outlook in Vista. I use my XP Laptop to do that.

    Again, part of the reason why its called Beta 2 is not *everything* works.
  14. Posted on: June 10, 2006 at 7:21PM
    Plus side though is WMP 11 on Vista picks up my Phone and allows me to put music on it.
  15. Matt
    Posted on: June 10, 2006 at 8:31PM
    I downloaded the file, but am unable to burn it to a dvd. I consider myself to be computer geek, and I'M not even sure what I'm doing wrong. I have written the file ITSELF, not the image, just the ISO file to 2 dvds and I can't make the image......PLEEEESE HELP!!!! I'm dying to try it out!
  16. Posted on: June 10, 2006 at 9:54PM
    Matt, head on over to the Microsoft Public Newsgroups - Microsoft has created several Windows Vista Beta 2 Newsgroups that could be useful to you - I'm sure there's someone there that can help you get the DVD burning issue you have figured out.

    http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.mspx
  17. Mat
    Posted on: June 10, 2006 at 11:38PM
    I managed to burn the ISO to a DVD, but ONE file couldn't be extracted!!!! It's called "install.wim" under the main "sources" file. Could someone email me that file at mathewy@zoomtown.com?
    I'd REALLY appriciate it!!!!!
    I know this probably sounds wierd........
  18. Posted on: June 11, 2006 at 12:04AM
    Mat, your best bet is to go to the public newsgroups and post about your issue there...someone there can probably help you out. By the way, your question is absolutely NOT weird ;-)

    http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.mspx

    I know alot of folks are heading to the public newsgroups and getting some responses to specific issues they are having. Its unlikely you'll find an answer here on this blog.
  19. DJ TECH
    Posted on: June 11, 2006 at 2:59AM
    Sidebar, how do you turn on Windows Aero?
  20. DJ TECH
    Posted on: June 11, 2006 at 3:02AM
    Sidebar, how do you turn on Windows Aero?
  21. Posted on: June 11, 2006 at 3:04AM
    If its not on by default after your installation that usually means your Video Card isn't capable for Aero or the drivers aren't correct.

    There is no simple way to turn on Windows Aero. Early hacks to the registry have since then don't work anymore. I've tried a few ;-)
  22. DJ TECH
    Posted on: June 11, 2006 at 3:06AM
    how do can I know if my card is good enough, do i go to the device manager? or what do I do?
  23. DJ TECH
    Posted on: June 11, 2006 at 3:10AM
    I have 256mb of RAM, do you think that has anything to do with it?
  24. Posted on: June 11, 2006 at 3:11AM
    The Windows Vista Upgrade Advisor is the best way to see if your hardware is good enough for the best Vista experience. I suggest installing and running it. It will detect your video card and tell you if it can run Windows Aero and what you may need to do to get it to run.

    http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/getready/upgradeadvisor/default.mspx

    This is one of the best tools out there for prepping for Vista.
  25. DJ TECH
    Posted on: June 11, 2006 at 3:12AM
    thanks, I have it downloaded but i never installed it.
  26. DJ TECH
    Posted on: June 11, 2006 at 3:13AM
    one more thing. can you install Norton Antivirus 2006 on vista. it tells me that it is incompatible. do you know the link of any newsgroups that talk about it?
  27. Posted on: June 11, 2006 at 3:14AM
    Please install it... this tool should have been ran on your PC before installing Vista to give you an idea of what kind of experience you can expect.
  28. DJ TECH
    Posted on: June 11, 2006 at 3:15AM
    i will just right now. how about the other question?
  29. Posted on: June 11, 2006 at 3:21AM
    I am not sure Norton Antivirus is compatible. I heard it was not and folks are recommending Computer Associate's EZ Antivirus. They are offering a free 1 year subscription for Vista Beta Testers.

    http://www3.ca.com/press/PressRelease.aspx?CID=88876

    One thing you will notice with Beta 2 is that specific applications will not work due to the way they are designed and this is the kind of feedback Microsoft is looking for.

    I do not know of a specific newsgroup link talking about it but there is a Newsgroup on Application Compatibility in Beta 2 you should check out.
  30. DJ TECH
    Posted on: June 11, 2006 at 3:21AM
    can you install Norton Antivirus 2006 on vista. it tells me that it is incompatible. do you know the link of any newsgroups that talk about it?
  31. Posted on: June 11, 2006 at 3:23AM
    Just posted - read above.
  32. DJ TECH
    Posted on: June 11, 2006 at 3:24AM
    thank you, i finished the test and it tells me that 512mb of ram is completely required. I also need to get a 128 video card. i have a 64mb one. I never thought the advisor would work. thanks for the link by the way.
  33. Posted on: June 11, 2006 at 3:29AM
    I am glad the Advisor helped you out!
  34. DJ TECH
    Posted on: June 11, 2006 at 3:29AM
    one thing: how can i get a manual download with windows vista. you know how the updates you get them on the computer, not on the website. how?
  35. DJ TECH
    Posted on: June 11, 2006 at 3:34AM
    the advisor told me to get an update for my graphics card, but microsof update doesn't detect it. it would be the first time i had to manually download, but its harder with Vista.
  36. Posted on: June 11, 2006 at 4:44AM
    Using Vista as I write this, so far, so good!

    Installation and the OS as a whole has been much more stable and problem-free than I was expecting. I must say I am pleasenty surprised.

    I was able to download before "the rush" by the way *snicker*
  37. Diego Barros
    Posted on: June 11, 2006 at 5:19AM
    John, they probably won't supply a torrent because they don't want to support something they didn't invent? Who knows. Maybe they want to take over the world if (or when) they release Avalanche (http://research.microsoft.com/~pablo/avalanche.aspx).

    Other companies already supply torrent downloads, so I don't know why MS feels they can't. If MS knows something other companies don't know then someone should fill them in.
  38. Mark
    Posted on: June 11, 2006 at 5:29AM
    Hey guys, I have downloaded the BETA 2 on to my desktop. I am quite impressed with it, it even fixed the PC, because I lost my Sound Card Driver CD, and Vista had the drivers built in! Nice.
    (-) But my problem is I have a Gigabyte/ATI Radeon 9250 Graphics card and it is AGP and 128 meg's of ram. I cannot enable Aero. I would LOVE to see the glass interface. Just for your informaition, my PC's spec's are as follows:

    -640 meg system RAM
    -Celeron 2.00ghz
    -40 meg HDD

    Can anyone help me?
  39. Mark
    Posted on: June 11, 2006 at 8:34AM
    \\--UPDATE FROM COMMENT ABOVE--//
    I installed Vista to my Acer Aspre Laptop and it's spec is 1.72ghz pentium M 512 mb system ram mobile radeon x700 64meg video ram (40 gig hdd partition).
    It installed dual boot with xp and guess what?
    I GOT AERO THIS IS SO WIERD! IT HAS 1/2 THE REQUIRED VIDEO RAM AND I GOT AERO BUT I HAVE DOUBLE THAT ON THE DESKTOP AND NO AERO!
    is this a miracle?
    i hav screen shots to show it:
    (on the acer laptop)http://ebayuserpics.mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/aero.JPG
    (on the desktop)
    http://ebayuserpics.mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/no_aero.jpg
  40. Mark
    Posted on: June 11, 2006 at 8:34AM
    \\--UPDATE FROM COMMENT ABOVE--//
    I installed Vista to my Acer Aspre Laptop and it's spec is 1.72ghz pentium M 512 mb system ram mobile radeon x700 64meg video ram (40 gig hdd partition).
    It installed dual boot with xp and guess what?
    I GOT AERO THIS IS SO WIERD! IT HAS 1/2 THE REQUIRED VIDEO RAM AND I GOT AERO BUT I HAVE DOUBLE THAT ON THE DESKTOP AND NO AERO!
    is this a miracle?
    i hav screen shots to show it:
    (on the acer laptop)http://ebayuserpics.mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/aero.JPG
    (on the desktop)
    http://ebayuserpics.mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/no_aero.jpg
  41. Taron
    Posted on: June 11, 2006 at 10:43AM
    I am getting the following error message

    :setup is not a valid win32 application...can someone help
  42. Posted on: June 11, 2006 at 6:27PM
    hi ,

    i can't wait to get the disk in the post but any advice about installing it.. the only problem i have to install it on my primary evoirment because my laptop doesn't have enough spces when i ran the checker thing so i might install it on the laptop because it has xp on it and that works but the specs require more then i had on the laptop so i am hoping it will work on the vista too. fingers crossed.
  43. DJ TECH
    Posted on: June 11, 2006 at 8:59PM
    sidebar, how can i get a manual download with windows vista. you know how the updates you get them on the computer, not on the website. how?
  44. Posted on: June 11, 2006 at 9:20PM
    Not sure what you mean...like downloading a driver seperately without Windows Update?

    I'd go to the hardware manufacturer's website. Again this is a question for the newsgroups.
  45. Posted on: June 11, 2006 at 9:24PM
    Taron, I recommend heading over to the public newsgroups Microsoft has set up for Beta 2 and ask your question there. There are a lot of folks in the newsgroups that can help you out.

    http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.mspx
  46. Ashish
    Posted on: June 12, 2006 at 1:11AM
    Please help me,i am having download problems. If i use the download manager for downloading it downloads a 191 bytes html file, i have used every available download manager, but its the same. If i use the download manager, it gives a network problem, the akmai download manager. I am behind a proxy, can please anyone tell me how to change the proxy settings for this particular download manager. Help me!!!!!!!!!!!!
  47. milan
    Posted on: June 12, 2006 at 5:56AM
    I cannot order Windows Vista! When I select my country Serbia and Montenegro, i get an error: "MSI Three Character CountryCode Not Found for YU". Such a shame - I really wanted to "Experience clarity...now!"
  48. Posted on: June 12, 2006 at 7:01AM
    Maybe I got in after the rush I found no problem downloading from thailand. Maybe it's a zone thing?
    I did have a bit of a fight burning the image file to disk, since I don't have a DVD writer on my PC I used my MacBook Pro and Toast Titanium. I'm surprised how much the Vista environment looks like Mac's!
  49. Posted on: June 12, 2006 at 8:15AM
    Microsoft are aware that they could just put up a torrent seed for the beta?

  50. Steve
    Posted on: June 12, 2006 at 8:51AM
    Tried downloading the beta when it was first announced but the severs were busy... tied that a few times to see if i could get in... so today i try and i get this error....  

    "Thank you for participating in the Microsoft Windows Vista Customer Preview Program.


    You have received the maximum number of Product Keys available for this program.
    Note:  Windows Vista Beta 2 can be installed and activated on up to 10 PCs using with one Product Key. "

    How can i get download the beta now...

    thanks for you help.

    </steve>
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