Differences between Editors and Moderators

re: Differences between Editors and Moderators

Tupick — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 13:37:10 GMT

Hi Stefan

As you have stated in one statement that it is not possible: " Btw: this is also the reasons that it is not possible to have a new revision of a Page with a future StartDate: there is only one StartDate and this is hosted in the Posting object and not in the Page object with the content."

Would the work around solve the startdate issue?

I have test the no moderator role solution and it doesn't seem to solve the problem.

re: Differences between Editors and Moderators

Stefan_Gossner — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 14:13:02 GMT

Hi Tupiq,

no there is no workaround for the startdate issue.

You cannot have more than one start date per posting.

Cheers,

Stefan

re: Differences between Editors and Moderators

Tupick — Thu, 03 Jan 2008 03:15:55 GMT

Has the issue resolved in MS Share point 2007

re: Differences between Editors and Moderators

Stefan_Gossner — Thu, 03 Jan 2008 10:52:15 GMT

Hi Tupic,

in MOSS 2007 you can have one future version for each item.

Cheers,

Stefan

re: Differences between Editors and Moderators

Tupick — Fri, 04 Jan 2008 02:43:25 GMT

Thank you for your reply

I just need more clarification on a couple of questions.

I have been investigating alternative to resolve the issue on pages that require Moderator approval go out of production.

Question 1

It looks like in MOSS 2007 pages and posting information are version together. see link below

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/aa830819.aspx#cmso12formcms2002_postingsvspages

So my question is it is possible to have a new revision of a Page with a future StartDate without the page going offline?

Question 2

As you have suggested as a work around to the issue is to create a staging environment.

I have investigated the Site deployment tool.

It looks like site deployment will only export

approved Items only. So what will site deployment do if a page was set to expired on the content creation environment? will the page in the production environment expire after export and import had been performed?

re: Differences between Editors and Moderators

Stefan_Gossner — Fri, 04 Jan 2008 10:33:18 GMT

Hi Tupick,

1) yes.

2) expired pages are still approved - so they will be deployed and put the item offline on the production as well. In addition the expiration date will also have been deployed to the production server earlier. So the item will expire here also without an additional deployment.

Cheers,

Stefan

re: Differences between Editors and Moderators

tupick — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 07:02:09 GMT

I still have an issue with site deployment tool, when the start date is changed, the page goes to "waiting for editor approval". Site deployment will not deploy this page which is good. However when it is approved, the page will be deployed. This is an issue when existing pages are pre-approved the existing page will go offline prior to when its intend to be published, if site deployment runs nightly.

Question

1. when the start date is changed and saved can I intercept the process? I like to have my own plugin to handle future start date publication on existing pages.

2. I had read the best practice approach from Microsoft regarding site deployment. What are the risk of run site deployment on a production environment very minute without have a backup server, for example directly deploy to production when users(read only) are using it?

re: Differences between Editors and Moderators

Stefan_Gossner — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 11:17:32 GMT

Hi Tupick,

if you change the start date the item will change to "waiting for moderator approval" - not "waiting for editor approval".

1) yes you can intercept this using a PropertyChanging workflow event handler.

2) you should only deploy once or twice a day during a time where small traffic hits the site. Reason: during the import the database tables are locked for a short time. That means that page requests coming during this time can result in 500 errors or other exceptions. See here:

http://download.microsoft.com/download/4/2/5/4250f79a-c3a1-4003-9272-2404e92bb76a/MCMS+2002+-+(complete)+FAQ.htm#8F855853-100E-400F-A914-AC3A42C2EAD6

Cheers,

Stefan