Terminal Services Gateway and Terminal Services Web Access using Hyper-V (Part 1)

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Manohar — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 17:15:17 GMT

Hi ,

While starting virtual machine in Hyper-v mangement iam getting error like Virtual Machine failed to start , Hypervision not initialised.Please help me how to solve this problem.....

Thanks

Manohar

re: Terminal Services Gateway and Terminal Services Web Access using Hyper-V (Part 1)

jhoward — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 19:50:43 GMT

Manohar - this will probably be hardware requirements for no execute/execute disable or VT/AMD-V. Take a look at http://blogs.technet.com/jhoward/archive/2007/09/24/how-to-install-the-windows-server-virtualization-role-in-windows-server-2008-rc0.aspx and some of the comments to that.

Thanks,

John.

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re: Terminal Services Gateway and Terminal Services Web Access using Hyper-V (Part 1)

Saravanan — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:07:47 GMT

Is it possible to get the list of VMs and its associated details using web services from Hyper-V like what ESX supports?

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jhoward — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 20:23:40 GMT

Saravanan - Hyper-V exposes this information through WMI and certainly it is available. There are a number of resources which will assist here: The official documentation for the Hyper-V WMI interfaces is on MSDN and has recently been updated with a first wave of sample code (as I understand it, this will be built on over time). http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc136992(VS.85).aspx

James has a powershell library posted up on codeplex: http://blogs.technet.com/jamesone/archive/2008/06/18/hyper-v-powershell-library-now-on-codeplex.aspx

Taylor also has a number of powershell samples on his blog: http://blogs.technet.com/taylorb

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Saravanan V S — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 03:24:06 GMT

Thanks Jhon, James and Taylor. I have java application. Through which I would like to read all VMs from Hyper-V and list down in my application. For ESX, I write web services and talk using SOAP. Is it possible to use SOAP to communicate with Hyper-V also to get the VM details.

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jhoward — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 23:48:37 GMT

Saravanan V S - this is far out of my area of expertise I'm afraid. As I understand it, this is possible using WSMan, but what it would take, I really don't know. More information on WinRM is http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa384291(VS.85).aspx. From reading so far, it sounds like this is very possible.

Thanks,

John.

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Naga — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:31:51 GMT

Hi John,

I'm in a situation where I had installed TSRemote on a LAN and TSG on the WAN, this works fine for me. Now I want to use TSWeb where should I place this ?

1. On TSGateway and then allow TSWEB to communicate.

2. On TSremote app ?

putting everything in a single machine works fine.

re: Terminal Services Gateway and Terminal Services Web Access using Hyper-V (Part 1)

jhoward — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:37:16 GMT

Naga - as I mentioned at the very top of the post, I don't know - I would have to defer to a TS expert to answer specific TS deployment scenarios.

Thanks,

John.

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Priya — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:51:42 GMT

Hi Saravanan,

I have the same requirement as you have- " I have java application. Through which I would like to read all VMs from Hyper-V and list down in my application. For ESX, I write web services and talk using SOAP. Is it possible to use SOAP to communicate with Hyper-V also to get the VM details."

Were you able to find a solution ? If so, can you please throw some light on it ?

Appreciate your help.

Thanks and Regards,

Priya

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Shashidhar — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 13:57:49 GMT

Priya, Saravanan,

Did you get any information about this?

Thanks,

shashi

re: Terminal Services Gateway and Terminal Services Web Access using Hyper-V (Part 1)

Matt Williamson — Mon, 26 Jan 2009 05:51:56 GMT

Sounds exactly like the steps I followed except I add the Licensing Server Role AND I ran into A HUGE PROBLEM!

I login to my TS machine as the domain admin that I configured the machine with and browsed to http://localhost/ts. Everything is fine.

I login with a regular domain user, browse to http://localhost/ts and I get this IIS exception EVERYTIME!!

Server Error in '/TS' Application.

Some or all identity references could not be translated.

I've literally tried to fix this for the last 8 hours. I removed then added the machine back to the domain. I added every domain group/user to every setting I could. (What's weird about that is I can add them, but when I visit Local Users & Groups later and view the groups, my domain users/groups don't show up in the list. If I add them again, it says I can't because they're already there.)

New local users work fine, it's regular domain users and I can't find anything anywhere on the net of someone having a similiar problem :(

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jhoward — Mon, 26 Jan 2009 06:01:53 GMT

Matt - this isn't something I'd be able to answer from the Hyper-V side. It doesn't sound like a Hyper-V issue. I would suggest you post a question to the TS team on their blog at http://blogs.msdn.com/ts/ or post a question on the Technet forums for TS.

Sorry!

Cheers,

John.

re: Terminal Services Gateway and Terminal Services Web Access using Hyper-V (Part 1)

Rick — Tue, 27 Jan 2009 00:14:06 GMT

Am I correct in assuming that you did the following on one physical server :

1. Installed Server 2008 Enterprise as the PDC

2. Installed Hyper-V and created a new virtual machine

3. Installed Server 2008 Enterprise on the virtual machine

4. Configured the virtual installation to be a terminal server

Next question....would this configuration be possible and supported by Microsoft if using SBS2008 Premium? Using SBS as the PDC and the second server license as a 2008 terminal server in the virtual environment.

Thanks for your time. If I'm barking up the wrong tree can you point me in the right direction?

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jhoward — Tue, 27 Jan 2009 01:21:16 GMT

Rick - it was a while back, and there were multiple physical servers present, but as I recall.....

Hyper-V was used to create and run the TS machine virtualized. Due to the spec of the box at the time (limited RAM), it was the only VM running on it.

At the time I had two 2003 DCs seperate from the Hyper-V machine, and the Hyper-V machine was in that domain (as was the root CA, TS machine, ISA machine etc). Most of the other VMs were running on Virtual server back then, since migrated to Hyper-V and the domain moved to 2008 native.

Unfortunately, I really don't think I can safely answer any licensing questions and am not familiar with the way licensing works with SBS. A good place to start with those questions may be some of the Windows Server technet forums http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/windowsserver/.

Thanks,

John.

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Matt Williamson — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 02:25:04 GMT

I found a resolution to my problem above, thanks for your response.

Apparently you'll encounter strange bugs if you create a VM base image and then copy it to create new VMs (to save time not having to install and update). Don't do it unless you run SYSPREP! This was news to me.

re: Terminal Services Gateway and Terminal Services Web Access using Hyper-V (Part 1)

jhoward — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 09:11:56 GMT

Matt - glad you resolve it. Yes, correct - cloning any machine without sysprep involved will cause no end of problems. Thanks for the update.

Cheers,

John.

re: Terminal Services Gateway and Terminal Services Web Access using Hyper-V (Part 1)

monikaW — Sat, 16 May 2009 21:30:18 GMT

Hi John

I am very interested in this scenario.This is my chance for testing TSGateway.I hope part 2 is comming soon.I intend to clone all steps and therefore my question:why was installed Server2008Enterprise and not Standard? And please an additional question.Is it correct if the virtual MAC is sent to the router?I have expected the MAC of the physical NIC.

Thanks,

monikaW

re: Terminal Services Gateway and Terminal Services Web Access using Hyper-V (Part 1)

jhoward — Fri, 22 May 2009 00:48:33 GMT

monikaW - yes, part 2 is http://blogs.technet.com/jhoward/archive/2008/02/09/terminal-services-gateway-and-terminal-services-web-access-using-hyper-v-part-2.aspx and it goes on to parts 3 and 4 too. Easiest way to find them is choose the posts from February 2008.

Thanks,

John.

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Axel Dahmen — Mon, 20 Jul 2009 16:31:44 GMT

Hi, John,

I'm a software developer and a Newbie to Hyper-V. The procedure you've described sounds complicated to me, I'm afraid.

I wanted to install Hyper-V Server on a rack machine at my providers' and install three virtual machines running IIS as web servers on it. To administer all of them I just wanted to run Remote Desktop to administer Hyper-V and Remote Desktop/SCVMM to administer the VMs from any client machine.

Is it really necessary to use the Terminal Server role, to create a CA etc. etc. for making such setup secure?

It's hard enogh for me to administer Hyper-V using the command line. NETSH and NETCFG are all new to me. Yet I don't want to unnecessarily install a Windows 2008 Server with Hyper-V just to provide a Hyper-V role. So I'll guess I've got to get through with the command line and any documentation I'll find...

re: Terminal Services Gateway and Terminal Services Web Access using Hyper-V (Part 1)

jhoward — Tue, 21 Jul 2009 05:08:13 GMT

Alex - the TS Gateway solution (AFAIK - not being on the TS team) requires a domain environment and supporting infrastructure. It's not strictly necessary to have your own CA though - a commercial certificate can be used to secure the connection.

However, a simpler solution may be to have just an RDP connection open to the server and perform management locally for the VMs. In the case of Hyper-V Server though, this will not be possible as the management tools are not available - only for a full installation of Windows Server 2008 (/R2).

The other alternative would be to configure a VPN connection so that you are able to use the Hyper-V manager tools remotely connecting to the Hyper-V Server box.

Thanks,

John.

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