How important is my MCSE status to you?

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Gene Carter — Thu, 24 May 2007 21:31:55 GMT

Your MCSE status? I don't really care. Technet crowds are brutal enough to weed out any presenters who are less than well-informed. I figure that if MS put you in front of me, you must know your game.

MCSE status in general? Me, I do put all of the letters on my cards. The "Microsoft Stamp Of Approval" means a lot to most clients. It provides my clients with a level of confidence "out of the gate" and places my consults in a better light than my competitors.

re: How important is my MCSE status to you?

johnnybad — Wed, 20 Jun 2007 20:42:48 GMT

Well by now you will know that in reality the MCSE is dead. MCTS 2008 plus some other funny letters for the enterprise version MCTIP or some stupid a$$ acronym.. I finished my mcse 2003 a few months ago, a totally ridiculous qualification, took me 2 years to get it, while others get it in 2 days from india...

I was going to go on and do the MCSE:security version, but seeing the new microsoft website, I've decided to chuck it all in the bin... as far as I'm concerned it's just a cash-cow cert for microsoft.. how many specialist areas are there in microsoft world? 7 exam for the mcse:2003, a possible 2 0r 3 exams for the security version, then the messaging one, maybe 2 more.. give me a break....

I'm so fed-up with this nonsense, I was forced to do the mcse by my company, and anyone who has seen the microsoft exams, know that they bear virtually no relevance to the real-world.. exactly who goes around setting rights for 5 forests and 34 domains so that some user can access his txt file from a windowNT laptop via some dial-in modem nonsense...

what a joke.. sorry I'm thru with microsoft exams.. I'm going the cisco way... microsoft can go to hell.

re: How important is my MCSE status to you?

chrisavis — Thu, 21 Jun 2007 00:42:10 GMT

@johnnybad

Well...my questions was - How important is *MY* MCSE status to you. But I can surmise that since you don't seem to see any value in the MCSE program that whether I have my certification or not doesn't mean much to you.

To clarify a few things - "took me 2 years to get it, while others get it in 2 days from india" - If someone knows the products and the material it is easy enough to take all of the tests in a week, pass them, and get the cert. I did the NT 4 MCSE in 10 weeks back in '97. Work experience and hands on experience play a huge part is passing the exams. But I have to admit, there are a many, many "braindump" sites out there that will give you the tests verbatim and allow anyone to pass to get the paper MCSE. That sucks.

"as far as I'm concerned it's just a cash-cow cert for microsoft" - The fee you pay for exams goes to the testing facility, not to Microsoft. Microsoft benefits by having trained, knowledgeable, certified admins in the field that can properly install, configure, maintain and secure the products. Better running implemenetations leads to more purchases down the line.

"no relevance to the real-world.. exactly who goes around setting rights for 5 forests and 34 domains so that some user can access his txt file from a windowNT laptop via some dial-in modem nonsense" - on a regular basis I have to VPN (RAS) in from my laptop (Vista) to copy/edit a single file. Not generally a text file but those questions are usually dealing with security and permissions where the filetype is not a limiting factor. It is relevant and people do have to do those kinds of configurations. Usually when it is the admin hired on Monday to fix the network that was screwed up by the admin that was fired on Friday. Simple is better but not always what we get handed to us.

Chris

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