Targeting Series, Part 2: Why targeting a computer group fails

re: Targeting Series, Part 2: Why targeting a computer group fails

David — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 01:16:33 GMT

Why this need to create classes from discovery infomration?

Because for my customers it impacts the subscription notification process. If all my notifications could be divided up neatly (especially for non-Microsoft application) and sent to the correct teams exclusively based on the existing classes in SCOM 2007 MPs that would be great.

Life is not that simple and this is where a better GUI interface with more options in subscription creation would have been greatly appreciated.

re: Targeting Series, Part 2: Why targeting a computer group fails

David — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 23:34:13 GMT

So basically, SCOM 2007 is data type driven from the ground up and attempting to use a non-data type organization is considered arbitrary and does not function predictablly. So either use one of Microsoft's sealed management pack classes or whip open the authoring console.

I see the strength in a data-type approach and this approach is good for Microsoft applications. It is not necessarily good for benign 3rd party applications. The assumption we are making with a data-type driven system is that there is always a piece of discoverable data that defines the organization of rules and monitors.

My customers resist this because it forces them to dig down and discover their own environment to make these kinds of data-type driven classes. And a lot of time they do not know what seperates a 3rd party application A server from a 3rd party application B server. And to make matters worse the tools are not that friendly or stable for seamlessly creating classes.

OpsMgr 2007: Monitor or rule targeted at computer group does not generate alerts

SMS&MOM — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:55:01 GMT

One issue we still seem to see a lot of confusion about is the way that you use System Center Operations

re: Targeting Series, Part 2: Why targeting a computer group fails

Marco Lutters — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 12:22:04 GMT

The only thing that i am really missing is a wizard to add classes. The detection rules only seem to work for object properties. The only way I can currently create classes is through custom XML mp's that I fill in with the GUI. This would also stop the need to target groups.

Will this ever come?

Operations Manager 2007 Targeting Series

Scott Moss at myITforum.com — Sun, 18 Nov 2007 20:15:42 GMT

Two good bits on targeting in Operations Manager 2007. Part one is about the differences between MOM