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Windows 7 Lenovo ThinkPad T61p WINSAT score – try to beat this

Windows 7 Lenovo ThinkPad T61p WINSAT score – try to beat this

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In the past 48 hours I tested a couple of different Lenovo ThinkPad T61p’s with Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Beta 1.  Both of the machines have 8GB of Kingston memory.  Both have the same GPU and video RAM.  One has the Intel T7500 Core 2 Duo CPU.  You can see the post I did on it at http://blogs.technet.com/keithcombs/archive/2007/09/06/windows-vista-x64-on-the-lenovo-thinkpad-t61p.aspx in September of 2007.  At that time there was no such thing as a 4GB SoDIMM.

T61p World RecordThe other ThinkPad I have is a more recent version.  It’s one of the last T61p’s made with the T9300 CPU.  It was going to be my corporate domain joined legacy Windows Vista machine.  At least until a little package arrived in the mail this afternoon.  It was from Kingston.  Sweet!!!  Christmas in January.  First CES now this.

So I took my new little goody out of the box, dropped it into the Lenovo primary drive cage and stuck it into the T61p.  I popped the Win7 install disk in the DVD drive and installed Windows 7 Ultimate x64 onto my new friend.  Fifteen minutes later I was hitting update.microsoft.com looking for the NVIDIA WDDM 1.1 video driver.

Uh, Hello Keith?  Did you just say 15 minutes?  Yep.  It happened so fast you would think I just installed Windows Server 2008 Core.  I’m actually going to have to go back and run a couple of tests on that again to make sure I’m not lying.  It was the fastest Windows client install I’ve ever done I think.  Might have been 20 minutes but I don’t think so.

The Kingston Connection

As you might recall, my group is sponsored by Kingston this year.  Kingston supplied memory for each of the US IT Pro Evangelist on my team.  Only one machine mind you, but hey, that’s a heck of a lot better than nothing.  Making the jump from 4GB to 8GB on a demo machine is a big jump.  It has helped immensely this year and in many ways kept me from having to travel with two machines.

Our Kingston representative introduced me to a number of her colleagues while we were at TechED 2008 in Florida.  One of those introductions was with executive in charge of the SSD line of drives they were working on.  He asked me if I’d be interested in testing some samples when they became available.  I of course said yes, and the first of the evaluation units arrived today.

Kingston SSDNow M Series

ssdm-series The drive that arrived is the Kingston SSDNow SNM125-S2/80GB.  Here’s the marketing blurb from the website:

Kingston's new line of SSDNow solid-state drives (SSD) rounds out its suite of enterprise products. The SSDNow M Series uses Intel's solid-state drives, which are the best-performing drives on the market. By improving a computer's performance and durability, SSDNow M Series drives help increase the productivity of power users.”

Hey, I’m a power user and if the scores in the screenshot above are any indication, this baby is going to absolutely smoke anything I’ve had in the past.  There’s only one problem.  I’d like to use this drive fulltime for a couple of weeks and I’m currently using 81GB of disk space on my old tired legacy platter hard drive.  Legacy.  Grin. 

The other problem is that I’m just getting my Windows 7 (almost said Vista) environment ship shape.  I’m a little over half way through the installation and testing of all of my drivers and applications with Windows 7.  But when the going gets tough, the tough use Ghost.  Yea, that’s right.  Old habits are hard to break.  So I’ll probably just finish up what I’m doing then take a Ghost snapshot and restore the image to the new SSD drive.  I’ll probably have that done before the weekend is over.

Bring It People !!!

In the meantime, if any of you happen to have a Lenovo ThinkPad T61p and manage to break my record above, let me know.  Sure looks like Kingston has a fast drive and you simply would not believe the boot times with Windows 7.  I’ll take notes over the next few days and weeks and report back on install times, boot, suspend/resume times, etc.  I’ll also measure some big copies, virtual machine loads and other fun stuff.

For more information, see http://www.kingston.com/ssd/m-series.asp.  You can also get more information on the technical specs at http://download.intel.com/design/flash/nand/mainstream/mainstream-sata-ssd-datasheet.pdf.

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  • Gets 5.8 on processor and ram on a X200 with 4gb memory and 7.4 on disk with IntelX25M

  • Wow.  That must be a fun Windows 7 machine Flemming.

    The new smaller drive is probably going to have me rethinking where I store data.  For instance, it probably makes more sense to keep 20-30GB of my personal stuff on the second hard drive I keep in the Ultrabay.

    Apps and OS on SSD.  Data on slower speed storage.  Sound good?

  • I get a 2.0 :( It is due to my hard disk, but my other scores are not too impressive.

    I hate my Dell Inspiron 1520. Everyone should avoid Dell. Performance is not great. They happen to use DDR2 instead of GDDR3 for the video card. In addition, the plastic is wearing out, the lid creaks and my power adapter complains that it is not the correct wattage. I have had the adapter and motherboard replaced by Dell...

    Oh well there is my rant.

  • Wow...

    Just...wow...

    15 Minutes?  My beta install last night took almost 2 hours on a 5400rpm disk.  My disk score is a 1.

    Wow...SSDFTW.

  • figured i'd throw my ocz 64gb ssd in and test it. took about 20 minutes to install.

    scores are

    7.2

    7.2

    7.9

    6.0

    6.2 (ssd)

    so this ssd must not be too fast. i may keep it in a while, install some apps and see how it is. when i had xp on it, didn't seem too fast, so it's been sitting on a shelf, until i saw your post.

  • My WinSAT Score on the same machine ist only, 2.9 --> because of the hard drive.

    I have the standard 200 GB drive and a acore of 5.2 in Vista, but only 2.9 in Windows 7. As far as I can see I have the same drivers installed (Intel Storage Matrix,...)

    Any help on this (other than buying a SSD?)

  • Yes, thats a bug in Windows 7 Beta!

  • Well you could always dual boot your machine so that you have Windows 7 and Vista.  That is if you can keep them both under the 80GB limit.  

    Check out my blog for details on how I setup the dual boot with XP and Windows 7.

    Rob Waggoner

    http://ts2blogs.com/blogs/rwagg/archive/2009/01/15/how-you-can-dual-boot-between-windows-vista-windows-xp-and-windows-7.aspx

  • What about the lenovo untilities I was unable to get the Bluetooth to be recognized under windows 7 beta 1 x64. I finally got he fingerprint reader to work. it seems like the utility for the drop protection didn't seem to work either.

    have any of you with t16p gotten these working?

  • I have had trouble getting some of these levnovo utilities and stuff working I was able to get all of the drivers and devices recognized and the finger print reader finally worked but the blue tooth and the utility for the drop sensor both do not seem to work under windows 7 at this point.

    Has anyone else been able to get these to work?

  • Its even faster installing Windows 7 from a fast USB flash drive like this from Patriot:

    http://www.patriotmemory.com/products/detailp.jsp?prodline=4&catid=8&prodgroupid=64&id=637&type=11

    Or from Windows Deployment Service.

    I guess its just as fast as a Vista RTM install if i install from a pc on the local network, but i havent tried that yet (the DVD-drive wouldnt boot from the Vista retail-media, so i had to install XP and get to the install-files over the local network. That was a very nice surprise i wasnt expecting).

    I also havent got bluetooth or Wireless working on a T60 (2007-fvg), but havent looked into the problem yet.

  • I got Bluetooth to work on the T61P by installing Lenovo Access Connections, then in AC powered on the Bluetooth radio.  As soon as I did that, Win 7 detected the Bluetooth and installed drivers.  I haven't tried pairing a device, but I have no reason to believe it won't work.

    I haven't been able to get the finger print reader working.  Any help from someone who has made it work?

    Got a 5.1 in 32bit Win 7, and 5.3 in 64 bit Win 7.  Factory memory and HD.  Disabled write caching on the drive to score that high.

    Also, Lenovo has started a beta win 7 driver page, it is here:

    http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/WIN7-BETA.html

    The only driver posted is the Active Protection drivers.  Seem to work well in both 32 and 64 bit.

  • You can install the UPEK driver for the finger print reader:

    http://www.upek.com/support/downloads/windows7/w7x86.asp

    Works like a champ on my T61p.

    -Stacy

  • I just got my Windows 7 installed last week, it went well. Does it have the Windows Mail installed & working yet, like in Vista? I could not find it after the MAin install, appeared tp be graued out. Anyone else know if I can find it to install & check the Ops of it too?

    Thanks,

    Terry

  • Hi,

    will the UPEK drivers work with Thinkpad R61 ?