New, but not uncommon question I've seen a lot lately

re: New, but not uncommon question I've seen a lot lately

Dean — Mon, 27 Dec 2010 02:25:13 GMT

Ug. So you don't proactively service but you do proactively service sometimes. Ok.

It seems to me that the servicing stack could use some simplification and sorting out. I mean narrow things down some. It's kind of like your on version .85 and you haven't quite got to 1.0 yet. Either proactively patch everything or don't do it at all. I don't really see what the advantage is anyway. When you install a feature or role Windows Update or WSUS will kick in anyway. I guess it would patch say a few hours faster which is good security wise but then be consistent and do it for everything.

re: New, but not uncommon question I've seen a lot lately

joscon [Microsoft] — Sat, 25 Dec 2010 21:58:18 GMT

Dean;

Fair point, bad wording on my part. We dont proactively service a feature that isnt on the system. So, that is true. However, if you were to install a critical update that referenced a role/feature in its component manifest, that would be staged and allow for the component to be proactively patched.

--Joseph

re: New, but not uncommon question I've seen a lot lately

Dean — Sat, 25 Dec 2010 21:35:49 GMT

"Where the problem comes in is when you add roles/features/applications to the mix. Specific roles may have updates that apply to them alone and wouldnt appear on the scenario above because the role was not present when the Windows Update scan was run."

This contradicts what you said in this post

blogs.technet.com/.../why-are-all-files-are-not-installed-when-you-install-a-hotfix.aspx

"We can do this for files in a patch or by proactively patching for a feature like IIS before you even install the feature."

re: New, but not uncommon question I've seen a lot lately

joscon [Microsoft] — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 20:03:40 GMT

Total number vs total applicable to situation is what I was referring to in the post.

re: New, but not uncommon question I've seen a lot lately

someone — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 16:49:35 GMT

Number of fixes in service packs:

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Windows NT 4.0 SP1 => N/A

Windows NT 4.0 SP2 => N/A

Windows NT 4.0 SP3 => N/A

Windows NT 4.0 SP4 => 706

Windows NT 4.0 SP5 => 245

Windows NT 4.0 SP6 => 275

Windows 2000 SP1 => 262

Windows 2000 SP2 => 587

Windows 2000 SP3 => 1014

Windows 2000 SP4 => 675

Windows 2000 post-SP4 => 510 (I have them all up to 2009)

Windows XP SP1 => 319

Windows XP SP2 => 830

Windows XP SP3 => 1174

Post XP SP3 => Not counted yet

Windows Vista SP1 => 570

Windows Vista SP2 / Windows Server 2008 => 838

Post Vista SP2 => Not counted yet

Btw I miss the days when the list of hotfixes and security updates was a support article instead of an Excel spreadsheet. Please publish service pack KB lists in support articles.