Customizing the Windows 7 logon screen: no additional tools required

re: Customizing the Windows 7 logon screen: no additional tools required

Lee — Tue, 19 May 2009 18:07:22 GMT

When James gave incorrect credit clearly it was an oversight, not a malicious attempt to help the "Windows 7 Center" site.

James tried to do the right thing - but made a simple mistake by not reading down farther and seeing "Rafael blue badge", a search of which would have given the right credit.

Paul and Rafael were wrong - you don't accuse people of stealing and/or slander them until you've asked for an explanation. Isn't that basic journalism, ask for a response first and THEN draw your conclusions?

No doubt James would have updated the credit after a friendly inquiry.

For Paul and Rafael, thin skinned and unprofessional action for such prominent bloggers.

re: Customizing the Windows 7 logon screen: no additional tools required

James ONeill — Mon, 18 May 2009 20:54:53 GMT

Rafael, they only gave your first name and didn't link to your post, so you're mention but that's not an acknowledgment. Given a I link I would have gone to the source.

Every document I could find about this inside Microsoft is flagged as confidential, so I just wanted to be able to tell the legal people dealing with Paul if you had the information under NDA and breached it as with ... I'm sure you can think of an example... or if you had reverse engineered it in breach of the Eula.

Thanks for clarifying.

re: Customizing the Windows 7 logon screen: no additional tools required

Rafael — Sat, 16 May 2009 08:22:15 GMT

James,

The site does mention me, by name. Try reading three sentences in.

I did reverse engineer and test this on my own, using Microsoft tools. Why the doubt? Are you implying I'm not capable?

Rafael

re: Customizing the Windows 7 logon screen: no additional tools required

Chris123NT — Sat, 16 May 2009 08:02:39 GMT

James, if people didn't reverse engineer windows, life would be pretty damn boring.

And forbidden by the EULA? Do you seriously think people read that heap of legal junk let alone FOLLOW IT?

re: Customizing the Windows 7 logon screen: no additional tools required

James ONeill — Mon, 11 May 2009 10:45:07 GMT

Rafael,

You may be the person who put this in the public domain, but the site where I saw it doesn't acknowledge you. I bookmarked the page I credited and decided I would post about it when RC was available. There's nothing on that page or in the comments to tell me the credit is due somewhere else.

You see there is a gap between saying "the person you credit with this got it from X who deserves the credit." which is reasonable and what Paul posted.

Just for clarification: I doubt if you reverse engineered it from the code but that is explicitly forbidden in the EULA. Or was it information you got from Microsoft (NDA'd or not) in which case why are you laying claim to it ?

Useless post

Rafael Rivera — Mon, 11 May 2009 05:19:54 GMT

How? Because I'm the originator of the content, James.

re: Customizing the Windows 7 logon screen: no additional tools required

James ONeill — Sun, 10 May 2009 22:57:37 GMT

Paul, I'll allow you one chance to withdraw your accusation of theft. After that I'll pass this on to Microsoft LCA

I'm confident I did not see it on Rafael's site, and I credited the site where I thought I did see it. Why would I mis-attribute credit ? A quick check on live search found OEMSetup on 568 pages. WithinWindows wasn't on the first page. How on earth can you assert that anyone who knows about this got it from Rafael.

This information was stolen from Rafael Rivera

Paul Thurrott — Sun, 10 May 2009 22:24:14 GMT

You're a real class act, James. You stole this information from my "Windows 7 Secrets" co-author, Rafael Rivera, who first published this information on his blog, Within Windows, back in March. And you don't even credit the guy.

http://www.withinwindows.com/2009/03/15/windows-7-to-officially-support-logon-ui-background-customization/

Worse stil, your post is inaccurate and imcomplete, lacking, among other things, a list of supported resolutions.

Windows 7 Center??? PLEASE.

Shame on you. Please address this stupidity immediately.

Paul Thurrott

SuperSite for Windows

re: Customizing the Windows 7 logon screen: no additional tools required

Alemaker — Sun, 10 May 2009 17:37:52 GMT

Thanks for the tip!!! No more feminine olive branch and dove!!

re: Customizing the Windows 7 logon screen: no additional tools required

Chakkaradeep — Sun, 10 May 2009 02:18:05 GMT

A better and cleaner approach would be using this excellent tool to change the logon screen - http://tweaks.com/software/tweakslogon/