RSAT Release Candidate for Windows 7... ehh... Release Candidate

re: RSAT Release Candidate for Windows 7... ehh... Release Candidate

kgouldsk — Thu, 16 Sep 2010 20:27:47 GMT

Weird GPMC behaviour 110072383316937

I have the weird issue regularly as well, and one of the other admins here also notices it. I'm in GPMC most often of any of us. Backspace and arrow keys won't work, renaming a group policy won't work - all typing is inhibited, and pressing T will exit rename/edit mode entirely. I CAN put the new name in notepad, copy it, go into rename mode on GPMC, and paste the new name. This is on Win7x64, fully patched to current.

Group Policy Management 6.0.0.1

Management Console 3.0 Version 5.1 (Build 7600)

UAC is off. Typical invocation pattern is:

Explorer/localadmin only->runas CMD/domain admin->gpmc.msc

re: RSAT Release Candidate for Windows 7... ehh... Release Candidate

NedPyle [MSFT] — Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:51:37 GMT

I'm afraid that until someone here opens a Premier case and files a DCR through their TAM, it will not be fixed. Letting us all know the extent of the issue is good, but it does not start the ball rolling.

re: RSAT Release Candidate for Windows 7... ehh... Release Candidate

Dominic from CUSM — Fri, 20 Aug 2010 18:57:47 GMT

Hi,

I have the problem of some keys not working in ADUC and GPMC consoles.

I have Win 7 Pro x64 in French RTM with RSAT RTM too.

The problem occurs in default and custom MMC.

When the problem occurs, I need to close the MMC and open it again and the problem's gone.

I've not been able to find the way to reproduce it. When it occur, Backspace, arrows, End, Home keys do not work. In GPMC, it occurs frequently when I try to rename a GPO. In ADUC, it occurs frequently when creating objects. These two consoles are included in my custom MMC.

It's easy to solve it be closing and re-opening the MMC, but pretty anoying.

Unfortunately, it's difficult to find info about this bug anywhere else this blog post...

Is there a fix on its way for this ?

Thank you,

Dominic

re: RSAT Release Candidate for Windows 7... ehh... Release Candidate

Ecrofirt — Thu, 19 Aug 2010 11:59:21 GMT

Awesome, awesome, awesome.

I've got a printer deployment GPO that has been absolute HELL without those buttons. Thank you so much.

re: RSAT Release Candidate for Windows 7... ehh... Release Candidate

NedPyle [MSFT] — Wed, 18 Aug 2010 22:37:29 GMT

Hi Ecrofirt,

Yep, and we just fixed that a few days ago. :)

2258620 You cannot find the "Find Now," "Stop," and "Clear All" buttons in the GPMC snap-in on a computer that is running Windows 7 or Windows Server 2008 R2

support.microsoft.com/default.aspx

Win!

- Ned

re: RSAT Release Candidate for Windows 7... ehh... Release Candidate

Ecrofirt — Wed, 18 Aug 2010 12:42:33 GMT

Hey Ned,

I have other weird issues with RSAT as well. For instance: i36.tinypic.com/2aj11lz.jpg

I can't actually search AD, as the search buttons don't show up at all.

This happens for me every time I attempt it if I do the following scenario:

Right-click GPMC>Run as another user (my DA account)

From there, if I edit a policy/create a new policy and go to

User Configuration>Preferences>Control Panel Settings. From there, if I attempt to go to any of the sub-options and do item-level targeting, I can't actually perform the AD search, because those buttons don't show up on the form.

They do show up if I log into a DC as my DA account and do it from there. I try not to do things from the DC itself, though.

re: RSAT Release Candidate for Windows 7... ehh... Release Candidate

NedPyle [MSFT] — Wed, 28 Jul 2010 23:40:34 GMT

Hi,

I am able to reproduce the GPMC issue with the Settings tab being active (the use of admin or standard did not matter in my repro). Also you will find that the "T" key will cause a refresh to happen, as if you were hitting "F5".

With these details I was able to find that one of customers did finally call in on this and get it explored. We're looking into whether or not it rates a fix in this version, since the workaround is pretty easy (just move away from the Settings tab; click any other tab).

If there are other scenarios where you can get the backpsace to not work, let me know with precise repro steps. PSR.EXE is your friend here - as you can see, a lot of assumptions get put down here that are not always relevant to the repro.

Thanks

re: RSAT Release Candidate for Windows 7... ehh... Release Candidate

Ecrofirt — Wed, 28 Jul 2010 19:46:25 GMT

Sorry for taking so long to respond again.

Here's how I can effectively reproduce the problem:

I have RSAT installed on my workstation, which I log into with my normal limited-privilege account. If I open GPMC as myself, everything is wonderful.

However, I don't typically open GPMC as myself, and instead open it by shift-right clicking on the icon and choosing to "Run as different user". From there, I open it with my Domain Admin account, which actually has privileges to do things in GPMC.

When I am running it as my DA account I cannot backspace.

re: RSAT Release Candidate for Windows 7... ehh... Release Candidate

FredW2 — Wed, 07 Jul 2010 15:07:18 GMT

I am able to reproduce this problem at will. It happens when Active Directory Users and Computers and Group Policy Management snap-ins are installed in the same console. To reproduce the problem:

1) In Group Policy Management, select a GPO in the left pane, then click the "Settings" tab in the right pane.

2) In ADUC, right-click the domain and select "Find" to bring up the search dialog. Type in some text, then attempt to backspace or delete.

Once the keys stop working the only way to fix it is to relaunch the console.

I'm running Windows 7 Professional (X64)

...fred

re: RSAT Release Candidate for Windows 7... ehh... Release Candidate

pisboi — Fri, 28 May 2010 13:04:50 GMT

I'm another one of those "thousands of customers" with this RSAT/backspace issue (and other keys, like the arrow keys). I have no clue why it happens, and it seems to happen randomly like the other ones here say. When it happens, I have to close the MMC and open it again. Then backspace works.

I am running Windows 7 Enterprise Norwegian, custom MMC. If I get the time I'll try to reproduce this on a clean Win7.