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re: New KB Articles March 22-April 4

StuR — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 16:55:04 GMT

I don't see any mention of the missing WINS snap-in? This tool was present in the previous admin toolset and is also present in the Windows Server 2008 resident toolset?

Since it isn't mentioned in the RSAT description article, I have to assume its absence is another oversite (like the 4 missing tabs in the ADUC tool)?

I must say that the apparent lack of quality in the RSAT release is disturbing.

re: New KB Articles March 22-April 4

NedPyle — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 17:51:46 GMT

Hi,

These aren't oversights (i.e. they were not fogotten). The developers of the components chose at the time not to include them based on cost, lack of perceived customer demand (after all, RSAT was beta tested by Microsoft customers for a year - if a tool wasn't there, they didn't complain) or sometimes EU/DOJ bundling rules.

As customers request the tools, the developers will reevaluate them case by case. In Support, we are pushing very hard for this naturally, as we are the voice of the customer to Development. And just as an individual, I agree with you - I want all this in here just like it is on server 2008.

Please continue to highlight any missing functionality in RSAT that you find so that we have a stronger case to drive with Dev. Along those lines, please kind in mind that the people here in Support are on your side and not villains. :)

- Ned

re: New KB Articles March 22-April 4

StuR — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:04:27 GMT

Thanks for the info Ned. The missing ADUC tab issue along with the smtpadm.dll that requires registration don't seem to me to be intentional design decisions. And I would have expected any tools not present in the RSAT (and present in previous releases) be at least mentioned in the "Release Notes" for the tool.

Didn't those who tested the beta of RSAT also have to be running the beta of Vista SP1? If so, I don't think that was a large group.

re: New KB Articles March 22-April 4

NedPyle — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:52:09 GMT

I can't argue with your thinking - it's difficult to imagine it as an experienced network engineer like yourself. Much easier when you step into Dev shoes unfortunately, as well as factor in rulings from the EU and DOJ.

You're correct, the beta group wasn't as large as say, Vista TAP beta's and certainly not the Vista public betas. It's fairly relative though - it was still a *lot* of customers, and those customers were huge ones. Taking the Terminal Services tabs for example - when that question was posted I first checked our bug database - no beta customer had ever brought it up. So intentional or not (and I'm no mind reader :-) ), no one complained until it shipped.

- Ned