What's in a name?? A lot!! Announcing Windows Defender!

re: What's in a name?? A lot!! Announcing Windows Defender!

Sat, 05 Nov 2005 00:58:50 GMT

I don't like the new name.

Ever heard of "Hacker Defender" -- it protects malware from Hackers.
Likewise "Windows Defender" will protect you from Windows!

Frankly "Windows Antispyware" is a fine name. The name is descriptive to tell you what the product does. You are going to confuse a lot of people with this new name.

re: What's in a name?? A lot!! Announcing Windows Defender!

Mike — Sat, 05 Nov 2005 02:41:25 GMT

I really like the new name. Windows AntiSpyware is a great product also. I really can't wait for the new build!

Keep up the good work!

re: What's in a name?? A lot!! Announcing Windows Defender!

Andre Da Costa — Sat, 05 Nov 2005 02:41:43 GMT

I love it. Its all about having confidence in your computer again and the name says it all. I can't wait to see the new UI. Will it continue to use a Splash screen or since it will use a system service that won't be necessary?

Once-a-month definition updates?

Maurits — Sat, 05 Nov 2005 03:16:32 GMT

Definition updates will be released through Windows Update, once a month?

Isn't that a little dangerous? It seems rather slow for a malware definition update cycle. Also, a definition file update shouldn't need the heavy machinery of a solution designed to deliver executable patches, should it?

re: What's in a name?? A lot!! Announcing Windows Defender!

Bob Vanderveen — Sat, 05 Nov 2005 03:19:29 GMT

Vista and XP are mentioned but not W2K Pro. Is there any hope?

re: What's in a name?? A lot!! Announcing Windows Defender!

Alex — Sat, 05 Nov 2005 05:22:56 GMT

A little off-topic. There is a bug in AntiSpyware Beta 1. The whole program freezes when it hits a key in the registry with no permissions... Just thought you would like to know.

re: What's in a name?? A lot!! Announcing Windows Defender!

C. West — Sat, 05 Nov 2005 07:32:51 GMT

I hope this won't be OLD WINE in a NEW BOTTLE.

re: What's in a name?? A lot!! Announcing Windows Defender!

Spy — Sat, 05 Nov 2005 10:59:44 GMT

I think the name will hit a home-run on the marketting front. At the end of the day, though, it doesn't really matter what it is called as long as it does a good job. From everything I have seen it will do just that. The only thing I am waiting patiently for is the corporate version and deployment/management/MMC tools to match.

re: What's in a name?? A lot!! Announcing Windows Defender!

Chao-Chun — Sat, 05 Nov 2005 14:13:26 GMT

I like this new name. "Windows Defender" is simple and easy to understand. I look forward to the release of "Windows Defender".

re: What's in a name?? A lot!! Announcing Windows Defender!

Ed — Sat, 05 Nov 2005 14:55:47 GMT

The name is really meaningless. What it does is what matters. Keep the marketing people out!

Why oh why did you go with Win Update? The best security feature Windows has is the Limited User function. By going to Win Update, you have effectively killed any chance MSAS will ever be able to used by a Limited User.

I am truly confused on what you guys at MS think about... :-(

re: What's in a name?? A lot!! Announcing Windows Defender!

Brandon — Sat, 05 Nov 2005 16:57:46 GMT

When can be actually expect this new build? I hope you keep it pretty low resources. If we have to run antispyware, at least make it very lightweight.

re: What's in a name?? A lot!! Announcing Windows Defender!

Smokey — Sun, 06 Nov 2005 00:14:22 GMT

I don't like the name.

The name is confusing and not clear.

What will be defended exactly?

"Defender" is a general word, and don't explain what will be defended.

For sure the "normal" windows user will think windows is complete defended by "Windows Defender", and gives that user a false feeling of security.

Smokey [Wilders]

re: What's in a name?? A lot!! Announcing Windows Defender!

Chris Quirke — Sun, 06 Nov 2005 03:42:36 GMT

I like the name for the same reason x doesn't, heh. As a name, "AntiSpyware" creates two problems for me; it re-inforces the inaccurate term "spyware" (most commercial malware derives revenue in ways other than sending home information, so it doesn't "spy" on you, as RATs do for example) and it creates grounds for legal challenge from commercial malware vendors who can claim unfair detection because thier software doesn't "spy", isn't "spyware", etc.

By toning down the bad-guy rhetoric ("Our software removes software that users have indicated a desire to remove; live with it") the defense tool vendor can avoid litigation from commercial malware vendors.

I like these new technical developments, but how will MSFT answer charges from other defensive scanners that they are leveraging an unfair advantage by using the Windows Update system to deliver updates?

re: What's in a name?? A lot!! Announcing Windows Defender!

zzz — Sun, 06 Nov 2005 10:47:47 GMT

Since no one has asked yet, will it remove Sony's DRM rootkit that game cheaters have now embraced to hide their cheats from game cheating detection systems such as the one used by WoW.

re: What's in a name?? A lot!! Announcing Windows Defender!

Sun, 06 Nov 2005 13:33:02 GMT

Sounds like a super hero.

re: What's in a name?? A lot!! Announcing Windows Defender!

Bill — Sun, 06 Nov 2005 17:35:41 GMT

Will it remove the sony rootkit

re: What's in a name?? A lot!! Announcing Windows Defender!

Dan Halford — Sun, 06 Nov 2005 22:02:19 GMT

You trusted the renaming of Microsoft AntiSpyware to the same guys that came up with "Vista"? Well, that'd explain the result anyway. Windows AntiSpyware might not have had the sexiest name on the block, but it was to the point and descriptive.
Of course, Land Rover are going to love the new name too. they've only been manking a Defender for fifty years.

re: What's in a name?? A lot!! Announcing Windows Defender!

David Ruschinek — Mon, 07 Nov 2005 01:00:25 GMT

The new name is fantastic. I have been installing and testing the MS Anti-Spyware since February and I really like it. it is by far the most comprihensive anti spyware tool out there.
I can't wait for the next release!

re: What's in a name?? A lot!! Announcing Windows Defender!

DM — Mon, 07 Nov 2005 02:15:03 GMT

Didn't I play this game in the 80s?

re: What's in a name?? A lot!! Announcing Windows Defender!

Leonardo Nakahara — Mon, 07 Nov 2005 04:26:20 GMT

Well, I really agree with X, the one who wrote the first comment. I think Windows Defender will not be as clear as the Windows AntiSpyware name used today. Windows AntiSpyware evokes the protection against all kinds of Spywares. But, as the product evolves, if this product on it's release time, turns out to be different from an only AntiSpyware software, since it protects the system against a lot more than only Spyware, then I think this is the apropriate name.

re: What's in a name?? A lot!! Announcing Windows Defender!

sam — Mon, 07 Nov 2005 10:19:55 GMT

i really like your engine ...!!
(Nice technique...)
But i dont like the new name !!!

re: What's in a name?? A lot!! Announcing Windows Defender!

Thorsten Hans — Mon, 07 Nov 2005 13:34:15 GMT

I think the new name sound mutch more better. Perhaps there will be an coupe of new names like
Windows Defender, Windows Live , Windows whatever...

re: What's in a name?? A lot!! Announcing Windows Defender!

Brian Busk — Mon, 07 Nov 2005 17:18:21 GMT

I like the new name, but I liked the old one aswell.

Im really glad that Windows Defender will include detection and removal of rootkits, cause it seems like one of the worst security risks in Windows today. The risk is of course higher than it should be because a, normally respected, company like Sony are using the rootkit technology. Hopefully Windows Defender will both detect and remove Sonys rootkits.

Keep up the good work

re: What's in a name?? A lot!! Announcing Windows Defender!

Sean Krulewitch — Mon, 07 Nov 2005 22:37:11 GMT

So will Windows Defender remove Sony's rootkit-based DRM ;)

re: What's in a name?? A lot!! Announcing Windows Defender!

Jonathan Sloves — Tue, 08 Nov 2005 04:08:50 GMT

I like the name Windows Defender far more than Windows Anti-Spyware. It gives you a nice umbrella to grow the services your team can provide. It's also consumer friendly. Since Microsoft has a huge deal with Marvel on X-Box, perhaps you can get them to create a character for you!

Since Windows Defender is now an integrated service, I imagine that it will be available for both 32-bit and 64-bit builds. Correct?

Protects from Sony DRM Rootkit malware

Ian Ameline — Tue, 08 Nov 2005 04:27:45 GMT

I sure hope it detects removes and blocks all rootkits -- including sony's DRM rootkit malware thats been in the news recently.

re: What's in a name?? A lot!! Announcing Windows Defender!

Ryan Palencik — Tue, 08 Nov 2005 05:15:03 GMT

This all sounds great, but when can we expect a enterprise version or similar product that is centrally managed.

like someone else said, as long as it works I could care less about the name.

Keep up the good work.

re: What's in a name?? A lot!! Announcing Windows Defender!

Robert — Tue, 08 Nov 2005 09:52:48 GMT

Its a great name.

Like Jasong said, its much more positive than antispyware. When i think of "antispyware" and "antivirus" it sounds like a medicine you would take AFTER your infected.
"Defender" has connotations of fending off malware BEFORE infection.

Thumbs up :)

re: What's in a name?? A lot!! Announcing Windows Defender!

Gis Bun — Tue, 08 Nov 2005 10:22:14 GMT

OK. So now it has a name. When does it get released?

re: What's in a name?? A lot!! Announcing Windows Defender!

Ben Boch — Tue, 08 Nov 2005 20:47:05 GMT

The name will do fine, but using the Windows Update site leaves a lot to be desired. There are too many hoops to jump through each time it is accessed. The changes in July completely did in the automatic updates that were already setup, and too many reboots were necessary to get it back again.
Bring on more Defender, but let it do it's own auto-updates.

re: What's in a name?? A lot!! Announcing Windows Defender!

John Taylor, Tampa, FL — Tue, 08 Nov 2005 22:27:26 GMT

GREAT CHOICE!

re: What's in a name?? A lot!! Announcing Windows Defender!

David Beaupre — Tue, 08 Nov 2005 23:04:44 GMT

How does this change or integrate with the Microsoft Client Protection software that Steve Ballmer announced a few weeks ago?

Is one consumer targeted and the other enterprise focused?

re: What's in a name?? A lot!! Announcing Windows Defender!

Adam Clarke — Tue, 08 Nov 2005 23:50:44 GMT

I don't really like the name, "Windows Defender". I am not sure what it's supposed to mean in the first place. It's a defender for windows, but doesn't state what it's defending against in the name (maybe Windows itself).

However, I like how spyware protection will finally be built into the operating system. Hopefully this will help make Windows much better to use for the average Joe. Once Vista comes out, I might give it a try and switch from using Mac.

re: What's in a name?? A lot!! Announcing Windows Defender!

SOB — Tue, 08 Nov 2005 23:57:01 GMT

Is it really going to defend, or is it going to eliminate spyware. Windows Eliminator . . . I like that.

re: What's in a name?? A lot!! Announcing Windows Defender!

Steve — Wed, 09 Nov 2005 00:49:19 GMT

Great new name! (no, "antispyware" is not more descriptive, as this product removes and protects against far more than just spyware.)

And all the other changes sound excellent as well....which is great considering AntiSpyware is already my favorite such product. Keep up the good work, all.

re: What's in a name?? A lot!! Announcing Windows Defender!

James Conrad — Wed, 09 Nov 2005 00:53:35 GMT

i wonder by installing antispyware and defender, which one would win, the fighting with each other over who zaps who would be interesting.

re: What's in a name?? A lot!! Announcing Windows Defender!

Aaron Barbee — Wed, 09 Nov 2005 02:17:32 GMT

At first glance I loved the name Windows Defender, but in reading the other threads it got me to thinking.

Windows Defender would be a good name for a suite of protection software. "Defender" is a little too vague to be just for AntiSpyware. In my mind, it should be:

Windows Defender Suite
-Windows AntiSpyware
-Windows AntiVirus
-Windows Firewall
-etc.

re: What's in a name?? A lot!! Announcing Windows Defender!

Peter Smith — Wed, 09 Nov 2005 03:34:20 GMT

Great name. It rolls off the tongue easier, and it does describe the product well. I love the product myself - my favorite feature is the detection of spyware attempting to load as you surf the net, and the big red dialog box. Its proactive - I like that in software. Keep up the good work.

Next Beta Release

Alan — Wed, 09 Nov 2005 06:12:34 GMT

Is there any word on when the next beta release is scheduled? It's been almost four months since the last one.

re: What's in a name?? A lot!! Announcing Windows Defender!

Heston T. Holtmann, B.Sc.Eng — Wed, 09 Nov 2005 06:27:12 GMT

I don't care what they call it.. as long as it:
- dependable
- reliable
- doesn't impede on my dev work
- easy to use
- easy to maintaine
- easy to configure
- easy to deploy
- easy to turn off when required

re: What's in a name?? A lot!! Announcing Windows Defender!

Rob — Wed, 09 Nov 2005 10:51:02 GMT

Don't really care about the name. all i care about is performance, stabilitily and effectively removing unwanted software on XP.

Just wondering wether Limited Account on XP will be able to download and install definition manually or automatically.

also can't wait to see the screen shots.

re: What's in a name?? A lot!! Announcing Windows Defender!

ian ainsley — Wed, 09 Nov 2005 16:22:20 GMT

i was surprised to learn that windows anti-spyware is going to be renamed windows defender, very unoriginal...there must be a 'squillion other defenders out there.

HELLO?????? Windows 2000 support PLEASE?

Anonymous — Wed, 09 Nov 2005 18:06:50 GMT

Seriuosly, if you decide to not support 2k there will definitely be issues in the corperate world with this software not being use.

Will. This. Run. On. Windows 2000?

I know the current beta DOES, how about this refresh?

re: What's in a name?? A lot!! Announcing Windows Defender!

Gary — Thu, 10 Nov 2005 19:02:31 GMT

I like the product but have questions about the name. Someone could believe it also defends against viruses.

re: What's in a name?? A lot!! Announcing Windows Defender!

Dermon — Fri, 11 Nov 2005 15:19:47 GMT

Nice name! When will be the release?
Thumbs up!

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